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Stephan Kunze's avatar

I'd say the indie success of XL or Domino will be hard to replicate. It's just a different time. Dirty Hit might be one to add to the list, while only founded in 2009.

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Darren Hemmings's avatar

Yeah Dirty Hit would definitely be on there. I think the only reason I didn't mention them (again, full disclosure: they're an MU client!) is because they were partnered with Universal for a good while, which purists might argue means they're not a 'true' indie. Frankly though I think the term 'indie' is increasingly worthless these days because so many have some kind of dotted line to a major (e.g. PIAS being 49% owned by Universal - so does that mean anything they handle isn't indie? And so on...)

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Stephan Kunze's avatar

Yeah it's very unclear today what 'indie' means. Ingrooves, who is Dirty Hit's current distributor I believe, is owned by UMG as well. With The Orchard owned by Sony, those 'real' indies have become rare. (Shoutouts to Idol.)

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Darren Hemmings's avatar

Oh god yes when you get into distro there's barely any that are truly indie. Hence all the kerfuffle about RAYE winning her Brit award - some places were making much of her being on an indie label when in reality she still goes via The Orchard (I think) such that it still amounts to a win for Sony too. Messy, no question!

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